Choose the variation? What? It only makes the color/variation before the name because he selected the ID of something that already exists, namely a member. If you punched "RedBoyachi" or "SmellyBoyachi" into the ID field, it would work just as well.
Okay, lemme see if I can tell you why the debugging screwed up this Bio and only this Bio in all RP posts throughout existance.
You use Bio -- it is an incomplete action as it is not combined and no other action has been used after it yet.
You use Backhand. Backhand draws upon the incomplete action of Bio and combines it into a Bio/Backhand. This occured before the recent Bio debugging, so it neither gave you the "mutates a" message nor did it work quite properly, namely in that when you received your Bio, the Bio token was already in there. Technically, you had a Bioing-Bio Forges, Bios, and Traps must remove their said tokens from the actions they bring about to prevent endless cycles. I had somehow never caught this before.
For the record, you now have a Bio on you that Backhands and Bios again with every action.
Now you Backhand a second time since your Bio. Now, through freakiness of entirely messing up the system with all the changes I made in the debug which I shall not go into elaborating on here, your dual-status Bio makes this Backhand also Bio. I would not be all that clear on whether further attempts to attack would end up as Bios as well -- that is -- until your Bio wears off.
I guess I could just hack in to fix it, tho'.
EDIT: I just read Gobbo's addition, and as usual, it seems he did not even bother to read what the Hel was going on and everything he said should be completely ignored. Also, he is a moron.
[Editted by MintMan on Jul 30, 2004 14:39]
boyachi
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Member #92
Jul 30, 2004 14:40
You know, I do suck, but I was kinda wondering if you did watch that show, MadGoblin, ever since you referred to the grimer as 'squish face.'
Did you see that one? That was pretty funny.
Of the few I have seen, the only one that comes to mind of stuff like what we were talking about before would be the "bizzaro" one.
i have not seen them all. So yeah. *starts Jivetalkin The Summer of the Dawn is here. However, Summer of the New Dawn shall be approaching... this summer.99%complete
MadGoblin
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Jul 30, 2004 19:08
Bland post skimming + pent up non-targeted anger + annoying school project + being really tired + yearning for fruit pie = non-ideal condition for replying
But, ignoring my incompetence yes, Sea Lab rules, and that was the basis of saying "Squish Face", as you guessed The Bizarro episode was so great, but, even tho' I didn't even see the entire ep, the "Uh-oh!" ep seemed to be 10x as great! Which may only be because the Bizarro ep begins to wear down after you see it, like, three days in a row when it first debuted
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Jul 31, 2004 2:07
Alrighty, I *think* I know what you're saying happened.
Maybe.
Also, before I continue, Mister MadGoblin, don't read this until AFTER you read Mr. MintMan's response that was made on the fouth page. Because as he said, you yet again jumped in and read only the very last response and assumed I knew not what I was doing.
...anywho.
A few questions:
1) When the move to be bio-ed is mutated, does that move get used? Or does it just soon become a part of you? Either way, I'm kinda screwed out of my bio, since it overrides, at least fro in this thread.
2) Whenever I try to use a move in conjunction with bio, if there are targets, instead of it seeming as though it's targetting them, it appears to be using that name as an ID of some sort. Or something. So is there a way to make it so that every time I use a tech, I backhand boyachi, or do I have to backhand whoever I'm targetting?
3) Can MadGoblin please read the entire thread before responding to these?
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MintMan
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Jul 31, 2004 10:33
Ever since it was made, the FAQ said:
Bio
If combined in a technique, the technique will be used every time the user acts until the user sustains a certain amount of damage. If not combined, the next tech used will be used with bio.
Do you think you could try frickin' reading the FAQ before you ask a stupid, stupid question? Yes the move is used -- when you use an attack after being mutated, thus what the entire purpose of Bio is. It lasts until.... I dunno, you get X amount of damage or something.
As I clearly remember you asking before, no, the move never gets an initial use. Bio, Bottle, Trap, and Forge do not actually use the moves they are involved in. Their actions just become references for when they are utilized in the future.
And yes, when using a move in conjunction with Bio, it overrides every argument with ID except for an item to use, which is only overriden in the case of Bottle. These things become apparent when you actually have them combined. Otherwise, you kinda gotta supply arguments until it works.
Lesson: use freakin' combine.
You cannot make your Bio always target Boyachi. A Bio's effectiveness goes along with whatever you use the triggering tech on. If you Strike Boyachi with a Backhand Bio, the Backhand hits him as well. If you Heal yourself with said Bio, you get Backhanded as you targeted yourself. Double-edge, no? Unless you curse, that is....
Also, didn't you just answer your own question? You realized that a Bio'd action does not have an actual target, so how can the Bio'd tech act on a target that was not supplied?
And maybe you should try reading Gobbo's post, as well. He just pre-emptively scolded you. He already admitted to everything you just said in the post made hours before yours, or did you miss that?
[Editted by MintMan on Jul 31, 2004 10:39]
boyachi
Posts: 1161
Member #92
Jul 31, 2004 12:41
* uses the technique Blast on Ice and Mintman for fighting * Can't we all just git along?
But yea, maybe some stoopid questens could be emailed. Minty should be allllllllll to familiar with my "Endless stream of questions."
It seems that it is like askin how to swim and not swimmin, for da most part. And were did dis forum topic go anyway? * stops Jive talkin*
*b!+c#e$ about foot hurting The Summer of the Dawn is here. However, Summer of the New Dawn shall be approaching... this summer.99%complete
boyachi uses Blast on Ice
MadGoblin
Posts: 1515
Member #2
Jul 31, 2004 14:34
* picks a virtual stop since he forgot what was available and can possibly sell on the street for crack money *
This topic had a topic? No way! I thought it just sort of evolved into the bastard-spawn of that ten-paged topic since it grew too cumbersome (even tho' that really don't make much sense )
And, heh, yeah... pre-emptive explanation. You have to admit, all, 'tis a pretty funny fact to transpire.
MadGoblin picks a virtual stop
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Aug 2, 2004 24:46
* uses the technique Curse *
Blargh, all you people and your yelling at me for not rememberring all of the smaller details. Or bigger ones. Etc...
Even though this has already been explained elsewhere, as I'm sure I'll be told, I don't remember the answer, What happens, then, if you use Bio, it needs a target, and then you use a tech without a target, such as forge, or curse? I'm fairly certain it would work as if you put an * in place of the target, but I don't remember who that targets for an offensive action.
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Ice uses Curse
MintMan
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Member #1
Aug 2, 2004 1:04
This one actually has not been explained before, but the answer is fairly simple.
No target. No Bio. Simple as that.
Bio will only activate if it has a target to be used on; otherwise, it does a-nothing as the action will be considered unworthy of triggering a Bio. Contrariwise, an action lacking a target may be fused with a Bio and it will activate every time an action is made henceforth.
More interesting is the subject of Forge and Bio combined, which leads to some sort of rapid-item producing.
MadGoblin
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Member #2
Aug 2, 2004 11:11
* Retrieves the talking wand by uses the technique BlitzBandit on MintMan's pointystick *
I can't believe you, Ice and Ems. Discussing things of FtRPG, asking questions, getting them answered. How dare you! Hasn't it be realized that the much more interesting topic of SeaLab 2021 has been brough up?
Bebop Cola... Good!
MadGoblin uses BlitzBandit's PointyStick
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Aug 4, 2004 16:09
* uses the technique Steal on MadGoblin's pointystick from his pocket *
So you really weren't happy to see me, eh? I see how it is.
You suck. Especially because you brought up a show to discuss that I would likely watch if it weren't for the fact that I * don't have cable *. Damn you.
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Ice uses Steal's PointyStick
MadGoblin
Posts: 1515
Member #2
Aug 4, 2004 17:32
Hey, now, I, if anyone, has right to complain about the whole "not having cable" deal. I lived without it for, well, 18 years of my life. Thing is, when you have a college apartment, they pretty much give it to you free. (if you can consider that after the terrible amount they charge ya).
That, or as is my case now, you can choose between a phone line or a cable-internet hook up. * looks at dusty phone that hasn't been used in years * Guess which was chosen? Hint: it weren't the potty tendril!
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Aug 4, 2004 20:13
I've lived with it for all 18 years of my life, as well. Never had it. However, I too will be in the same situation as you, with my college dorm providing me with that, most likely to compensate for the lack of space.
* uses the technique Backhand ... for healing purposes? *
So I can complain just as much as you. Probably more so, because I've lived missing more good shows on cable than you have.
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Ice uses Backhand
Camo
Posts: 1609
Member #5
Aug 4, 2004 20:32
ICE IS 18 :O
My 18th on the 12th :D. No idea where I'll be having it, but I'll be getting a BIG MUFF PI!!!!
Might have it outta town in some s***ty run down hall and get some bands, or if my bands guitarist has his new house probobly out there.
I would invite you REers but I'm not payin for you to get here.....
c*** me up scotty
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Aug 5, 2004 24:12
Yeah, I've been 18 since January 31, yo.
And whereabouts do you live? Depending on when and where, I might come and check out the party, too.
* throws a pointystick at Camo for being a young'un.... even though I'm younger than quite a couple of people here. *
Anyhow, congrats on turning 18 when you do, and the same to Emmy about turning 21... even though this is the wrong thread for that.
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Ice throws a pointystick at Camo
MintMan
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Member #1
Aug 5, 2004 10:50
Um, you are aware that Camo is, you know, Australian, right?
That will be quite a trek to check out a party.
Also, freakin' change the freakin' name on your freakin' Backhand. Not so much because it seems like a strange name for healing purposes, but because it is a Shadow/Blast technique. What the Hel does Backhanding have to do with either? I mean, Tap, Slap, Backhand.... could you come up with any fruitier of tech names? Or less descriptive into what they actually do? BlitzBandit, Smite, Banshee, EarthernArmor... these give you insights, and most importantly, they don't suck.
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Aug 5, 2004 15:42
*chuckles*
No, for one, I did not know he was an Aussie. So I take that back, I don't think I'll be visiting. But send an invite to my pal CatGonk, if you're anywhere near Perth.
As for the naming, I looked at it this way:
Tap sounds like something a mobster would do to hurt someone.
Slap was just a temporary name change from Tap.
Backhand is a more evil way of hurting someone, thus the Shadow mixed in.
And I'm only using backhand in this thread as healing because I earlier cursed myself, thus turning the Shadow damage towards myself into Shadow healing. Not to mention, there is no way of changing tech names until I decide to combine it with another tech, and I've not yet got anything else to combine into it yet. I'm still waiting for perhaps a poison to slip into the mix, though I'm curious about one thing before I do that...
...If I'm cursed, and I use a tech that has, among other things, a Shadow + Poison, then will I still sustain damage every turn as poison normally does, or will I instead gain life every turn?
And yes, I'm aware that there's not really such a thing as "turns" here...
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boyachi
Posts: 1161
Member #92
Aug 5, 2004 17:21
So, I think the point is reality versus phantasy, as you people spell it. That is what I believe the move name problem is about. Analysis: complete.
Now for a much more interesting question, which Debbie do you think would make a better...girlfriend (from Sealab2021)?
* uses the technique Heal who forgot to capitalize a letter when signing up * The Summer of the Dawn is here. However, Summer of the New Dawn shall be approaching... this summer.99%complete
boyachi uses Heal
MadGoblin
Posts: 1515
Member #2
Aug 5, 2004 17:41
Pssh! That's an easy question, boyo! I mean, Debbie's a total strumpet (so, that's plus 5 points ), other Debbie is... um... other Debbie? (minus -1, looks old), and then Space Debbie is alright! (10 points, da winnah!)
And, Ice, no. The Poison would not take on the element you attached to it. That element would only affect what types you'd become/ whatever else you put into that tech, if anything. Poison is always just one damage, unmodifiable.
Unless you have the fabled Magical Spork, which doesn't exist and wouldn't work anyways
LeeTupper
Posts: 158
Member #42
Aug 5, 2004 21:11
* uses the technique Strike on MadGoblin for mentioning a television show, actually a thinly masked lack of a reason to hit somebody * Why is my Change Token taking forever? I didn't think four tokens would slow me down that much... Ah well, not a real question, so no answer needed.
I'm more of a Detective Conan person. It's great for all ages, exempting the occasional bloody murder, but is usually funny, intellectual, and mature. Sealab's better than ATHF and Lupin, but the rest of the line up it's stuffed in crush it.
What is this arcane desert?- My current english teacher
Do I dare ask why this looks like a potato chip?-my 7th grade english teacher, with a destroyed piece of homework
You use Bio -- it is an incomplete action as it is not combined and no other action has been used after it yet.
Forges, Bios, and Traps must remove their said tokens from the actions they bring about to prevent endless cycles. I had somehow never caught this before.
The Summer of the Dawn is here. However, Summer of the New Dawn shall be approaching... this summer.99%complete
yes, Sea Lab rules, and that was the basis of saying "Squish Face", as you guessed 
