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Ash10

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Feb 14, 2002 15:31
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  Well, if anyone remebers Kinak's PokeBattle, I want to bring it back! If you don't, here it is in brief. You select a job, and some starting Pokemon. You then e-mail back and forth between the owners and tell them a story like setting of something you do that day. It could be stealing something if you are a Rocket, or training if you are a Trainer. Then the site is updated with new stuff. There would be shops and gyms and all those goodies. I even have a few volunteers to program, or help out making it if peole would like to do it. I would gladly do my best to do it, but I will also take other people that are good at HTML that are willing to also make it. So, just respond if you would like to do it, or just help out making it and be like a co-owner. Mabye if it gets big, we could get a host for it so it could be even better!
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VinnyD

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Feb 14, 2002 20:32
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  I'd be willing to help out on this, so just email me about it at driver@Centurytel.net I think it's a good idea, but, well, pokemon?? Why not something else. I mean it doesn't have to be original, but please, not pokemon!
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MintMan

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Feb 14, 2002 22:50
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  Well, Kinak's PokéBattle was, you know, Pokémon related for some odd reason.
  That, and if you look around, there are very few Pokémon fans let alone RPGs of this type around anymore. Most of what you see are those sorry Dragon Ball forum RPGs. I would gladly make another R.E.L. Link Up and even program some Perl files to do some instant updating.
  I could get a fly system up easy. You know, actual sign-up pages, stock-keeping for shop owners, yen tracking, whatnot. I'd be a grand ol' smash just like the old PokéBattle.
  
  Are you going to keep the name and all? You know, with not being Kinak's anymore, or will you keep it for a sort of memorial?
MadGoblin

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Feb 15, 2002 7:01
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  Oh, what have we here? Beany Joe's Pokebattle? Oh, that's right, I still have all of the original data and information from when I took over for Kinak! o_O
  
  It's crazy, nutty, y'all. For anyone who wants to check it out, it should be here: Yo!
  
  Ah, memories. I still have all of the logs I ever wrote for this thing laying around somewhere (even ones that I never got to use). Anyhoo, take a look if you'd like to know more 'bout it.
Ash10

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Feb 15, 2002 15:11
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  Ok, if you guys want, we can get going! I mean, I will try to find a decent host, might have to be Netfirms. And then we can start creating it. I am reading a Perl Programming book right now, so I can help a little with that stuff. If you would like to go find the spot to put, just post it here.
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MintMan

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Feb 16, 2002 2:14
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  Netfirms? That slow piece-o'-crud? I can't stand their pop-ups...
  If we are gonna do this thing, we are gonna do it right: no ads and a fast server. I'm getting my $80 a year outta this server. We can host it right here on Reality's End.
  My hope is that it will be so CGI-operated that there won't be any real problem from it being hosted on a partisan server.
  
  I think the first thing we must do is rediscuss the rules. Now, do we want this thing to be more anime oriented or less anime oriented? Do we want to include Gold and Silver and possibly new Advanced Pokemon (probably to attract the most customers)? Do we want to have the rules heavily based on the Game Boy game or do we want to deviate? Do we want to go completely off-the-wall and add some rare elements from the card game? Do we want to think of some large, underlying plot? Do we want AI-controlled enemies that wander the night looking for trouble? On the subject of time, shall we add a stricter control over it? Can pie talk? Why do we call them chick peas? What? Who? When? Why!
  
  *takes medication and shuts up*
  
  EDIT: How would you guys all feel if a majority of this RPG was done through CGI like a forum-based RPG? I mean, turns would be e-mailed to the user, but he would then subsequently go to a link to do all the stuff? Just an idea...
  
  [Editted by MintMan on Feb 16, 2002 8:44]
Ash10

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Feb 16, 2002 8:48
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  Looks like I have to take control...
  Having on Realitys End would be GREAT! (I was somewhat waiting for you to say that.)
  Here is the anser to all the questions:
  I think less anime based would be good, cause I really didn't think that the anime was very good, but it was ok. GS Pokemon? Definite Yes! Advance Pokemon? If we can get enough info on them to have a firm grip on what it is like. I vote create our own rules, because the Game Boy ones are a little wierd. Rare-Elements...That would be a hit! A plot! That would make this one of the best RPG's for Pokemon out there! AI people would be good... And if Pie did talk, it would rule!
  
  And yes, I vote for message board. Just as long as this message board gets it's edit account feature working...
  
  Ash10
  
  PS. If you want to start now and send me stuff on how to set it up, we could create like the basic outline. So, anyone else want to help out?
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MintMan

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Feb 17, 2002 2:44
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  We still have a lot of stuff to sort out, tho'. Due to laziness of not wanting to converse through e-mail, let's just do it here.
  I was thinkin'bout the old Kinak's (took me a while to remember) and here are some things I remember needing fixed:
  1) The Voting System: having member accounts would definantly limit this to one-per-customer (unlike the old system), but should we even keep it? I think we should as gym battles have little other ways of being completed. Another thing I think we should do is require the voting percent to be (50 x Competitor Level / (Competitor Level + Gym Poke Level) ) %, that way lower-level Pokemon can't win (for the gym leader or against) as easily due to popularity biases.
  2) Starting Off: The current list of jobs and Pokemon for those jobs are wretched! We need to expand that list big-tyme.
  3) Wacky Features: Jack largly agrees with me on this one. A lot of stuff from Pokemon comes from the Card Game. I think we should use select elements in our game, too. What I was thinking (again, this is just a thought) is that the Pokemon can learn TCG Powers/Attacks as a sort of Limit Break deally. Each enviroment would provide a certain base power (rated in the TCG elements) that would always be in play on all Pokemon. Then, through some random means, the trainer would acquire other Power cards to play on the Pokemon. Attacks would transform into their Limit Break-esque TCG counterpart, having the original effect and more upon use (e.g. Raichu gets enough power up to use Agility [2 Electric, 1 Colorless] so that when Agility is used [since no name change is apparent, it would become bold-faced or something], not only does Speed raise greatly, but damage would be done and there would be a 50/50 chance for Protect being used).
  4) Extended Map: More areas are always good. That is why I propose using lands from the Card Game as well as from the Game Boy Game. It gives us a lot of space to cover.
  5) Mini-Games: I thought this one would be a kick, although largely contradictory to the point of an RPG like this...
  Remember, we want to do this thing right, not fast. This is the sorta thing we gotta plan out sufficiented before initiating. So, any other ideas you operators have, just throw out. Here is something we definantly need: a name. Discuss.
  
  P.S.: I was against the anime idea, too. I was just throwing ideas out.
  P.S.S.: The Pokemon anime sucks on ice.
Ash10

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Feb 17, 2002 9:21
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  Yes, the voting system does need a lot of fixing, maybe even some big changes on the way to battle. (And MG, the Kinak's PokeBattle site has to have it's colers ajusted if they aren't already.) Expand the list of jobs, yes very much. But keep all the old ones, cause those were cool. (I like the breeders and stuff. And it would be fun to be a rocket...) A new job could be Supplier?(You know, to supply the stores and stuff) Wacky features would make this one unique, so yes, that would be good. And I liked all the wierd things the Card Game could do...
  
  Extended Map would be nice, but then someone would have to make it. Card Game map and the gameboy map combined?! Great...
  
  Mini games would rock, maybe like we could to that Celedon Slot Machine stuff...
  
  A name: Ash10's PokeBattle, that sounds stupid...How bout PokeWorld RPG? I really can't think of any...
  
  Ideas for it could be: a very improved battle system. Maybe instead of polls, or we could use polls, just with like a formula. Improved buying features, and a realitic breeding and hatching...
  
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MadGoblin

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Feb 18, 2002 8:08
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  Actually, techincally, they are fixed. You see, I had the CSS link to AngelFire, since GeoCities doesn't allow you to end files in anything besides .html, but AF has begun breaking any trans-linking things, not just pictures. So, since all pages had a default black background that I didn't feel like ditching, all of the other colors are just what your computer has set on default. Thus, making the pages really ugly...
Ash10

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Feb 18, 2002 14:25
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  Any more suggestions, or are we already starting...I think we need to plan a little more...
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VinnyD

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Feb 18, 2002 17:50
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  I'm all for mingames by the truckload. And you'll need more jobs than you alredy said, much more. I'd like it to be almost as customizable as FF Tactics, with a lot of jobs. I mean, they could be more like classes. I'm not so sure what it will be like cause I never saw Kinak's thingy but by Ash10's desc. it should be good. Don't be counting on me for CGI or Perl or nething as I'm still a crap programmer, but I would be good for storylines, premise and others.
  
  

PS: I could probably write better than the pokemon anime, and draw better, and dub better, and..........


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writer77

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Feb 18, 2002 18:52
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  Okay, wait, it would be cool to have like customizable jobs for your characters. Like, for instance, having a gardener (or something to that effect) as a character, and starting off with the base skill of + 1 grass attacks. Then, after every battle, your character gets XP of his own, and eventually gets specials like + 3 grass, + 2 damage against water, etc. etc. etc. And maybe even customizable Pokemon, by like using a special breeding process, which made a Grass and Fire type Bulbasaur, or something to that effect. As for a name, you should probably just think of a story first, then think of a name from that.
Ash10

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Feb 20, 2002 9:13
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  Yeah, that would be cool with the type bonus...Thanks!
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msanis

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Feb 20, 2002 16:51
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  that kinda sounds like the same exp use in mercenaries of astonia...which was mentioned somewhere else......
  except you put the exp towards attack power...and your magic's power...and some stuff ya learn like lock-picking.....
  
   i can help....but ya see.....im kinda a newb at making stuff....so maybe it'd be wise to stick with the people u already have helping you.....not to mention im a little lazy...ok lets just forget i said knew anything because i'll just somehow screw everything up, and basically i don't wanna do that...
  
  so what exactly are the plans for this??? will it somehow be intertwined with gilded jewel....or will it be totally different???Another decent idea i have (also from "Mercenaries of Astonia") is that there might be quests where you go through alot of danger to get someone a certain item...or help someone, also you get some exp after the quest and a nice little reward in exchange such as another rare item.....or some money......or even for the person to teach you a technique....
  just a suggestion, but it's a nice little extra in the game Merc.
  
  
i bet this post was a stupid one....well maybe...
  
  
  
  
  [Editted by msanis on Feb 20, 2002 23:08]
MintMan

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Feb 20, 2002 22:06
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  The following was supposed to have been posted two days ago (before Ash10's last post) but erroneous connection prohibited it:
  Umm... how about no?
  Calculations are done little in Kinak's PokeBattle, and even when the are, a few points won't effect anything much (apparently you are oblivious to game mechanics).
  As for those suggest classes ideas, er, I mean jobs, how about no? You people are ruined on the term "RPG." You aren't down with the 01|> $<|-|001 like MG and I. Job does not mean class. Your job in Kinak's was quite literally that -- your job. If you were a shop keep, you did little else than upkeep a shop, sell items, and make 'em competitive.
  Your entire functions in the game world revolve around this job. For example, a doctor's main goal was to set up a clinic of his own.
  You are thinking too much in lines of console RPGs which come far from what an RPG is supposed to be about.
  
  So, we need more jobs, but not in the way you are thinking. We actually mean something someone could use to fill a niche in the game world. That is the ultimate goal of these things -- to create a virtual world inside of a game. If you get lucky, you can even see your own patterns of interaction and economy to evolve. That is what this is all about.
  
  Now, for the current stuff:
  Like Ash10 said at the beginning of this post, this is Kinak's PokeBattle. That is all. It is an RPG. It existed entirely seperate of the R.E. League although it did help out with a link battler that used some of the battling for those who couldn't write well enough.
VinnyD

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Feb 21, 2002 20:46
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  So I get that, but what I don't get is if this is on a site, e-mail or whatever. I heard it was an e-mail game but I'm not sure how this all works..... Is it all a written story by the makers, or is it a technical game???? I'm confused. plz respond soon!
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msanis

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Feb 22, 2002 17:41
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  im a little confused to... (as always) but i think it's a site game cosidering mintman earlier said it was going to be on realitys end...
  
  now what i wanna know is, can u do anything besides the job?? like if u were a shopkeeper you'd just sit all day and do nothing??? I doubt it is...but i don't think i heard you mentioning it as anything else o it...
i bet this post was a stupid one....well maybe...
Ash10

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Feb 22, 2002 19:02
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  If you are a shop keeper, you matain your shop, and you can go around battling, cathing, and whatever you please! You make the story! And it is a site/e-mail game back when it was on GeoCities. All the information was posted on the site, and you wrote a stroy and sent it in an e-mail, then me, Jackdaw(now MG), or Brock Jr. would answer. But that was how it was...
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VinnyD

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Feb 22, 2002 19:36
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  I'm still confused... if your like a shopkeeper what would you do just email the site "I'm a jolly little shopkeeper?" I mean, how is this game played, that would help as I am helping to make it...... How does this crap go down???
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