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Seah

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Nov 16, 2002 22:17
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  I got 2 idea in mind.
  1 is make a walkaround like the 1 kero did(in flash)
  2 is make a something like the actual pokemon game(in flash also)
  
  Walkaround
  The pros- is you guys get to choose whether you want the battle or not.
  The cons- I have to write a lot.(kero might say i copy him )
  
  Game
  The pros- It look nicer, and no gym has done so.
  The cons- You guys will have to fight randomly once you step on the hotspot(the grass)
  
  I will let you guys vote.
  Can also give other suggestions. I will consider.
  
  I'm now working on the Game version. (walkaround I done before-Kero should have seen it before)
  The Game work out okie. But fight occures randomly. You can't choose when to...
Visit Desert Gym soon. New attractions will be added once I got my GSC gym up. I might include a pixaround walkaround version. It don't work.
SailorSassyStar

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Nov 17, 2002 8:20
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  Wow, both sound like they'll be really awesome. I think it would be good to see something different, so I'd choose the second one. The walkaround would probably make you do more work than you'd actually need to since most people skip reading the story line anyways. I know that sounds bad, but I think at one time or another we all have, and it's a shame since so much hard work goes into them. That is just what I think, and I'm sure nobody cares. If I know this place as well as I think I do Minty will come up and say the exact opposite of what I said or restate it with big fancy complicated words. I guess it doesn't really matter.
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Battalon127

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Nov 18, 2002 12:02
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  I really like the second idea. I wanted to do something similar but I lack the know-how.
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Cheetarius

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Nov 18, 2002 16:13
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   I like both. So, I suggest you do them both, but do the one that get's the most votes first. All the more fun for me when I go a'hunting. Hehe. Nothing can withstand my Power! Bwahahahaha! *starts coughing and falls over, unconscious, with his tail stuck up his nose*
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MintMan

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Nov 18, 2002 17:56
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  There is a good reason no one has ever made a game-graphics walkaround before.
  For one, it would be impossible to determine what graphic to use as the main character. I'd think female players would take much offense to being a dude when they specified at sign up that they were in fact chicks.
  Random encounters are just pointless. Anyone can just run away from random wild battles, and random trainer battles are more or less illegal as they could violate the no-battles-before-gyms rule.
  
  The R.E. League was designed for writing. I know people skip a lot of the stuff, but that is also why such a small percentage actually has the Legendaries. Reading is a necessity, and cramming in secrets on how to get through well-flagged gyms is a good way of ensuring that fact. Graphical versions often leave little for written description to give.
  Graphical versions might also give a false sense of ability, such as Surf and whatnot where they are unusuable in an outside-battle enviroment.
  
  But, hey, if you can actually program it to the extent where all the walking and animation is smooth, then kudos to you. I remember a graphical version Ryuujin once proposed making (with JavaScript, tho', not Flash). You had to press a freakin' button to move one space in any direction. That would have been one boring game. You'd need to click like eight times to get from one scene to another! I hope you have a better system of controls.
Evenfall

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Nov 18, 2002 23:33
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  I didn't hear very many female players complaining over the RBY version of Pokemon with the Ash-wannabe main character. But you do have a point though, Mint. You'd have some female players complaining that the female lead looks airheaded and some male players complaining that the male lead looks gay.
  
  Before you know it, you have a gender neutral lead character.
  
  Thank heaven, there is someone out there who actually encourages reading and writing! Yeah, I know it's already been said a hundred times, but I figured now was the time to sing MintMan's praises. We who are writers need all the support we can get, even if it is Pokemon gym building (yes, I'm planning my RBY gym as we speak).
  
  Anyway, the occassional graphical gym probably couldn't hurt things so long as it contained a little bit of text storyline and didn't violate any rules. In my humble opinion, it's a nicely unique idea. It just depends if the programmer is willing to spend the endless nights coding and drawing and trying to make the freaking code work for the millionth time.
  
  Anyway, enough ramble. If Seah can make it work, I'm all for the second option. Provided there are new plot twists and not just the straightforward stuff like in the actual game. Though I pity the people who still resort to 14.4 dialup connections. A Flash game like that would probably crash their Internet.
Seah

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Nov 19, 2002 5:48
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  erm... Thats the problem. Character picture. So i'll b using the chesspiece in the game. (the 1 like no gender 1.)
  And I decided that the trainer won't be random. only wild. And trainer will be like the pokemon way. (do not stare into other trainer's eye).
  So since so many chose the second option. I'll make it. I will be putting it up as beta test soon.
  As for the 14.4 connection, I personal don't think its possible to even surf my webbie. And flash are usually small. If I'm not very wrong, a flash with the same amount of infomation is smaller than java(applet).
  As for the writing, my english isn't very good. A lot of bad grammar. And you guys uses american spelling. And I learn european spelling. So writing could be a problem for me(i often get my friend to help me with the writing.)
  So the beta test would be out hopefully by christmas. (so that means I will not be gaining exp to fight kero's gym)
  I will post here once the beta test is out.(or. *touchwood* I can't do it)
Visit Desert Gym soon. New attractions will be added once I got my GSC gym up. I might include a pixaround walkaround version. It don't work.
MintMan

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Nov 20, 2002 14:05
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  Whoops. I forgot one of the most important factors. As an R.E. League gym, your gym must be accessible to all, including those that don't have Flash.
  
  All that means is that you need a non-Flash link somewhere on your site that at least leads to your gym battle. You don't have to include a blutty other thing if you do not wish.
  
  I knew I was forgetting something...
LieutenantEagle

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Nov 20, 2002 19:43
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  Wow....incredible. I'm good with Flash, but not that good.
  
  
  I personally think that if you have an overhead view with a hooded character, no one will ever be able to tell. Then again, who wants to run around as a grim reaper?
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Cheetarius

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Nov 21, 2002 16:59
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  *raises paw* That'd be fun. Anyways, I like the idea of being a Grim Reaper, since no Gym I've ever played in REL has defeated my line-up. Grim Reaper suits me just fine...
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Seah

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Nov 22, 2002 24:23
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  Erm. okie. I will put the gym(non flash page)(hidden in my flash gym site).
  Or maybe I put it as a link when it detect no flash player.(hope I find out how)
Visit Desert Gym soon. New attractions will be added once I got my GSC gym up. I might include a pixaround walkaround version. It don't work.
MintMan

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Nov 23, 2002 14:55
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  Well just remember when making a walkaround, your gym must still be accessible without passwords or forced battles or anything like that. I figure that you just want to hide your Flash gym something good, right?
  
  Well, I know nothing about Flash (a little too rich for my poor blood; give me free programming languages!), but I do know about HTML. How do you invoke a Flash program? Do you use the <OBJECT> tag or something? I can help if that is the case.
  Text put in between the openning and closing tag for the OBJECT object is supposed to be displayed to those who cannot accept the object. That would be a good way to display your gym.
  
  Hey, with all this Flash talk, it makes me wonder why no one ever tried to make a Java Applet gym. Methinks it would be easier to attain than Flash...
Cheetarius

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Nov 23, 2002 18:10
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   Because flash is spifffffy...*drool*
LieutenantEagle

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Nov 25, 2002 19:38
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  MintMan, you just said that at the right time. I ditched my JavaScript walk-around. Time for Java.
  
  I never actually wrote the invoke code. I simply used the Publish command, which gives me a nifty HTML document with the Flash embedded. I then look at the source code and copy it, which gives me the result I desire. I never actually wrote the code.
  
  And, FYI, Flash is not necessarily a paid language. Ever heard of KaZaA? Well, you can always download Flash MX from there. No, I did not say that I got it using it. I just searched and found it.
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MintMan

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Nov 29, 2002 2:53
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  KaZaA? You mean that illegal, tool-of-devil, bane-of-my-existance-and-all-beliefs program that I hate and despire above all other things since it deprives the world of the one thing that should be held sacred, intellectual property, do you mean that program? I do believe I've heard of it.
  
  I mean, it isn't all bad. You can download stuff from it like theme music from animes that you really can't even buy (just get indirectly from Japanese people ripping songs from DVDs more or less) or better yet rave remixes, but that accounts for a very little portion of its use. I believe the right to intellectual property should be held sacred above all things for in the end of things, it is all we truly own. R.E. has always held that belief and on more than one occasion actually banned sites, either adoptions or gyms, for even the mention of ROMs use or similar illegal activities.
Seah

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Dec 15, 2002 8:59
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  The flash walkthrough is making me mad. I'm not very good in drawing pictures. So my flash thing is dull, boring or watever words you guys can use to discribe a bad work.(any way, this is only beta test. The real thing I will go attend whatever drawing courses to make it nice)I'm uploading it soon. Before 20/dec. Do not attempt to find the gym or do any battle cause it link to nothing.
  By the way, Kero, your battle javascript thing can be open in a new window?
  I plan to make it that way so the user will not return to the start scene.
  If cannot, then the whole operation is cancelled. I will do what I had done in R/B/G site. Please reply soon.
Visit Desert Gym soon. New attractions will be added once I got my GSC gym up. I might include a pixaround walkaround version. It don't work.
MintMan

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Dec 21, 2002 24:07
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  You cannot open a new window with the url "javascript:function()" because that new page does not have such a function defined!
  
  If you were so willing, you could redefine the battle script, but you face problems should I ever update the code
  
  Simple answer: no. Lot-of-work hard answer: yes.
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