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VinnyD

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Dec 5, 2003 17:24
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  Yep, I could tell he was a sweet superior guy from the start. Ok that helps alot. I'm prolly gonna modify very few aspects then. it"ll take place pretty much independantly of your guys, save rare cameos. It'll rpolly be somewhat of a samurai jack type story. My guy is one of the dreamers who originally comes to the world. And he will seek a way home (plus more power) in his travels throughout the lands. I'm probly taking a lot of liberties on the way this all works, but it'll be loosely based yet with a lot of its aspects coming from this game. Hell Im even thinking of a game I could make once i get flash (if it happens after christmas). The game would involve well...ive gone too far already.
MMMM I just love chocolate sooo much!!
  but i cant eat it or ill get fat
  But its SOOOO GOOD
  
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draggy1234

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Dec 6, 2003 12:54
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  Hey MM, you know you were talking about a hall of fame where each dreamer's high scores from every puzzle would be combined to see who is the best? Will the determination come from each dreamer's ranking in each puzzle, or the actual high scores?
MintMan

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Dec 6, 2003 13:51
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  Very good question. See, the High Scores are not calculated in the same way. The familiar Survival Mode and Countdown Mode have higher scores for higher turn amounts, but as with the new Aurora's Challenge, Puzzle and Cascade Mode have high scores for low turn amounts, emphasizing speed over all else.
  
  Therefore, the combined board could not simply add up these points as the top of the one boards would have pathetic values while the top of the other boards go into hundreds. Instead, it is a combination of your total standings. Your ranking on the individual board, not your actual score, would be used to determine your overall standing.
  Thus, if you get to the top of a board with a really high score, your position would not change if you manage to beat your own score. Likewise, if someone beat your high score, your overall rank would change despite your score being the same.
Hmmm, different world, eh Vinny? That would work with the END plot. Unfortunately, none of my dreamers would ever be able to say anything about this other world nor be around any mention of it. Like most characters, they believe that this is still the same place, just overrun with spirits. Which one is right? One, both, neither, a flying taco? You'll never know!... well, yeah you will.
draggy1234

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Dec 6, 2003 15:23
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  OK, thanks MM. I was just wondering because if the scores would be determined by rankings, then that may create a problem with tied scores.
VinnyD

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Dec 6, 2003 15:39
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  Ok, restore world back to its former self, go back to old world, whatever. I just know it'll work to the point where my characters are the main guys there, but still your characters are involved. Example: In that shadows of the empire game for n64, the main guy (I think dash but whatever) has to stop a gang from showing up and murdering luke while luke is involved in the original storyline. The two stories rarely meet but tie in for a cool effect. Im trying to recreate that here.
MMMM I just love chocolate sooo much!!
  but i cant eat it or ill get fat
  But its SOOOO GOOD
  
  -Brian; Family guy
Camo

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Dec 6, 2003 15:45
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  Hmm... now I wanna go create a dreamer, is there a certain way they need to look or can the look like anything, I got a theme in my head, and will probobly give myself a decent name after conjuring up something.
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MintMan

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Dec 7, 2003 24:18
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  Has not this been covered, like, eight times? Oh well...
  
  Dreamers should look like nothing in a human shape. Surfaces are usually smooth and details are typically lax. Even facial features are entirely optional.
  What I most commonly hear them compared to is robots. Try imagining less-robotic Mega Man Robot Masters. That takes care of it pretty much.
  
  Of course, copyrighted properties are off the list.
  
  Use all the current dreamers of mine as examples. Battalon and VinnyD have it down pretty well.
VinnyD

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Dec 16, 2003 21:14
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  Well, dont think I dropped off this yet, in fact far from it, it is consuming all of my boring school day, in which i am more motivated to draw than in free time. (I've discoverd something, I get my best creative output from long monotonous jobs like mowing the lawn. I swear to god I get more ideas there than anywhere.) back to the topic though now, I am almost done with the rough draft of a first comic (damn my not having 500 to plop down on a flash developer!!!). Heh, soon it'll be transferred to printing paper, then edited and ready to go....heh, i wonder if my angelfire site will hold it, CAUSE IF THEY DONT! *shakes fist*
MintMan

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Dec 16, 2003 21:35
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  Try WebHostingPal.com if not. I am putting Arena Terrae there. They have virtually no rules! None at all! Bwa-hahahaha!
  
  Wow, you are that close to completing it? I am rightfully fearful -- fearful of how off this could be. Knowing the very strange storyline and the smidget that has actually been revealed, all signs point to monkeys.
VinnyD

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Dec 17, 2003 20:38
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  Yeah, right now i think it really has nothing to do with End at all, it turns out its story goes to much bigger things (as far as I know). Now I think it'll be based in an alternate reality, with modifications on characters in your story who'll make cameos. So no real probs cept for that. I'll probly only use the Gale dreamer as my storys already getting under way. and dont think its close to done, I just meant I was deep into the first episode (prologue, gaining of powers, dreaming, meeting a mysterious warrior who gives him a push in the right direction). And besides, right now I'm still developing first drafts, Im gonna check my small collection of Xmen cartoon era comics to utilize some techniques (the extremely basic frame ones at best) and make sure it'll fit right with my story. This'll prolly be 2 months till finish minumum, plus with block schedule shifting maybe longer.....
MintMan

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Dec 18, 2003 24:09
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  Wait, alternate reality? That ain't good. In fact, it would make no sense at all for any of my END things to have anything to do with something that was not the END. I do not even see why you would create something only to have it loosely based on something that just came out itself. I confused!
  *explodes*
  Alternate realities could really put a strain on what I let you use, even moreso than musserin' up storylines, largely due to copyright and covetous laws. There is a whole thing about protections of properties.... it is wierd.
VinnyD

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Dec 18, 2003 20:52
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  Yeah, Im pretty sure that soon it will have nothing to do with end, as it changed drastically from my original idea. I blame outside influences. But anyway my character is gonna be main, none of your characters will be in, and it will have very little to do with end cept for maybe a small element of the story (Dreaming and such, hell I'm still figuring out, Id already have it figured out if it were summer and i was mowing....) but as far as the entire story goes ill give you a sneak peek at nothing. 6 elements +1, ancient races, rebirth of the world, Gaia (dont ask me what she/it is doing in there, it just worked, plus its been used in a few sweet games), moon, mythological pasts, and finally it will split into four continuations based on my characters actions, seeing as he has several choices to make at one pivotal time. Yes this is my biggest to date (probly cause it is my first) project, and I'm working not even close to round the clock for it, in fact I'm still deve;oping main characters.... besides those who are essential to certain aspects of the story. Yes I know you will critisize this, but I think that somehow in the end all of this mess of story will come out to be something great (especially if i get flash)
MintMan

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Dec 18, 2003 22:36
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  Actually, that all sounds soooo sweet. Thing is, I do not see how END fits in. I can see how dreaming does, sure, but I would absolve it from END entirely and go off with it on your own. I mean, it is so detached already that it would not get link credits as an END substoryline. With all that Gaia and stuff, it really detracts from the point at main of END's ultimate end. Nonetheless, it sounds amazing and I cannot wait to see the first installment. Sounds like a good ol' romp of phantasticallity to me.
VinnyD

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Dec 20, 2003 21:36
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  Heh, yeah its pretty muuch independant of END now. Besides megaman esque (more human tho) characters, theres pretty much nothing between them, but ill be sure to update this to advertise neways. btw, I wonder if anyone has noticed the virtual items on their accounts now, I jsut noticed that, and I must say, I want to give myself my virtual crack. Did everyone get crack, or just me, where can i get more, can we just create virtual items, or do we have to give wha we have...so many questions....
MMMM I just love chocolate sooo much!!
  but i cant eat it or ill get fat
  But its SOOOO GOOD
  
  -Brian; Family guy
MintMan

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Dec 21, 2003 2:27
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  When people demonstrate tendacies in the forum, they get the virtual items. Crack comes from Six Grey, who is the sole factory of all Virtual Crack. He gave some to Gobbo who passed it onto you.
  
  Yeah, it is a wacky and underrated system I got goin' on. People just ain't showing enough deranged personality to get dem items.
VinnyD

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Dec 21, 2003 10:27
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  Hey if there is one thing i dish out, it is virtual newbie beatings. Hell, Hated was the latest victim, but there have been many. Im sayin those who post most in these forums, but are not noob, should each get their own production item... People like gobbo, me, SSS, writer, other old people whos still post regularly. I just wonder what Camo would give? Prolly beer.
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MadGoblin

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Dec 21, 2003 12:06
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  I've always thought the Virtual Pimp Smack should be distributed, but that'd be more of a negative givin's.
  
  Hey, what does this have to do with END? ... A'Nothing!!!
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Camo

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Dec 21, 2003 15:19
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  I think I should distribute goon bags, you know the 4 Litres of 10% alco cheap wine stuff! Its like 10 bux for four litres, which in American dollars, is probobly about 3 dollars!
  Should also put a way to consume items, haha!
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VinnyD

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Jan 5, 2004 15:38
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  Well, I do now have flash, and that means big things for my 'series'. Plus, my skills at drawing somehow over break improved immensely. Expect a new (updated) and improved picture of the frost dreamer. Now I have a general storyline, it will not be tied into END and the artwork will be a cross with modern spiderman type characters, and megaman. Be psyched, be very psyched
Gigas of the ice and cold. Wielder of the sword of Aegis and Rhaknam revolver. The next step in a legacy. Choose a destiny, and you will change existance!
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