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Six_Grey

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  Sega develops software now- because their system failed. They’ll have games on PS2, Game Cube &/or X-Box. And games get ported to other systems all the tyme- it has nothing to do with money problems.
  
  Who says all Link games must be continuations of the previous one? Does the new Ninja Turtles or He-Man cartoon have anything to do with the old one? No. It’s a re-telling, a reinvention. Lyke Dirty Pair is to Dirty Pair Flash.
  
  And- yes Minty- Game Cube WILL fade that easily. Talk to anyone who works in a video game store- read any unbiased video game magazine! So, some adults buy a System and a FF game. That won’t save them. It takes continuation purchases to make money. For that- you’d need a Game Library- which GC does not have! And your Pokemon rant is irrelevant. Did you buy a N64 for all the Poke games it had? No- and hardly anyone else did either! That’s one of the reasons the system failed! I’m not arguing that Pokemon fans will still buy the traditional GB style Poke games. Of course the s*** will sell in Japan through the roof! But America is where these companies make their real money. And you CAN NOT TELL ME that every person who bought Red / Blue will buy the new game...
  Because they won’t.
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  Well... To be honest, I didn't read all of these posts. But, I will respond to what I've heard. First of all, I personally believe that Nintendo ain't going to die out any time soon. From what I've read, Out of the three major consoles companies, Nintendo is second in sales, but first in profit, by far.
  
  http://planetgamecube.com/editorials.cfm?action=profile&id=120
  
  There's an article from Planet Gamecube defending Nintendo's way of doing business. I think that it's mentioned somewhere in that article, but I'm too lazy to check it out right now. I know that there is an article somewhere that says that, but I don't feel like finding it.
  
  As for the new Zelda, I've heard nothing but good things for it. Maybe I'm just talking to "fanboys," but, except here, of course, I've only heard good things. I will probably buy it, and I can't say that I'm thinking too negatively about the cartoony style. In some instances, I could even say it looks fairly good. (Did anyone see the picture of the huge lava centipede?)
  
  As for Luigi's mansion, it's a decent game, but at this point, it's completely overshadowed by all the other good games out now.
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Six_Grey

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  Well of course- planetgamecube.com - won’t have anything negative to say about Nintendo- Der!!! Try reading an unbiased publication. Smeg-hed!
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Camo

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  BWAAAAAAAAAAAH I'm busy playing Sonic Battle for a few days and look at all this argumentish stuff Well this Sonic game is one of those games that you buy a console for, its just so f***en big and awesome and the new Chao system is buetifulier then a pair of ripe melons! So far I am up to some stupid Bio Lizard monster which is really crap and just as your bout to finish it, it bishes you to hell! I borrowed Smash Bros Melee.... Its, err... Well not as good as I thoughted be, I played through the game once with Link, and had a couple of multiplayer games, but its pretty much a perfect conversion from the original, too boring for me, I'll stick to Powerstone2 on me DC, that game will NEVER die!
  
  Also on the note of games that make you wanna buy a console, Metroid Prime, Godzilla Destroy all Monsters and PSOGC all fit into that categry, not to mention Starcraft Ghost (I think thats comin out on everything though!). The PS2 (in my mind) has no games that make me wanna buy the console, its stuck in the world of 50 Hz (Even the DC was better ). I don't mind that GTA3, but I can get that on puter much cheaper, and much sexier graphics, though I dont think I could play it out of the condition of unsoberness hooker bashing mood. The Xbox has Halo to its advantage, but once you play that a bit (yeah, I wanted an Xbox just for that game... once) the game gets so boring, and the levels are so long you cant just 'replay a level' It is Getting Panzer Dragoon Orta, which looks quite sexy but I dare say not very difficult to conquer, and Shenmue 2, which I would love to get, but its not the kinda game you buy a whole console for. And in all trueth, if the GC wasn't around, I'd still be supporting DC, its got far better games then the PS2 and Xbox range.
  
  (note: I hate FF games, I loved 7, but am so sick of turn based games... well they ok, but would never 'pay' for one ;P)
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  'Tis a sad truth that the Cube is seeing rough times. Fortunately, our good friends at Penny Arcade make sad things comicable! Wee! Stuff!
  
  Proof!
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Camo

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  I dont really agree with that thingy mabob comic, see, how much games you play really nails down to how much money you allocate to gaming. There will always be all the little nintendo games aswell, such as that classical little comb blasting buddy, DK will be flashed about sooner or other, all those characters that could have a possible comeback, Kirby, Wario, Crazy Kid clown, Megaman (or anything capcom cartoony ), maybe even a new Powerstone may grace the GC, I think its more of a GC game then Xbox or PS2, maybe even a game where you use BOWSER as the main character, or even Sonic and Mario in the same game, this can happen now! There are heaps of other Nintendo characters wich, with a nice new game engine, will make people scream out for Nintendo
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VinnyD

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  Hey making one of my couple of monthly appearances today, out of suprlus of free time. I think one of nintendo's problems is lack of original games in franchise mainstays. I mean, metroid prime is one of their biggest departues from the norm lately, and it is by far my favorite game for gamecube (behind Madden)(shut up minty I know you don't like sports games, sue you could just go out and play football, but where can you control your favorite NFL team or created one and guide it through a dynasty, or remake youself in virtual form and break Reggie white's sack records etc...) anyway I got off point. Mario has been a franchise that lives off of variety and simplicity. The worst part of Sunshine is that it was just a rehash, and the missions were retarded. I don't want to win a freaking watermelon contest, just give me my damn shine!!! Anyway off point again. Luigi's Mansion deserved more credit for being an original game. And yes Camo powerstone, and soul caliber are the best fighting games in history. and the zelda game is pretty fun to play, despite s*** graphics. And respoinding to another post, Kazaa does ban all illegal transmissions of unowned software, but it would be impossible to enforce, and would destroy almost 99.9% of its users including me. I'm sorry my dad sold my super nintendo and bought me a used PSX so many years ago, but its a lot easier to download super metroid and SMRPG. anyway this has gotten into an endless rant so I'll wait for a response.
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Lugiatrainer

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Mar 8, 2003 9:20
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  On Mar 6, 2003 12:40, Camo said:
  
There are heaps of other Nintendo characters wich, with a nice new game engine, will make people scream out for Nintendo

  
  Like Ness?
  I've heard Nintendo's planning an Earthbound game for the GC.
  
Cheetarius

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Mar 8, 2003 14:21
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   Someone said something about MegaMan...I used to really like those games, always wanted to see something like that in first person shooter. That's why I want Metroid Prime, or for them to make a MM first person shooter game. Funfun.
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Lugiatrainer

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  On Mar 8, 2003 20:22, Cheetarius said:
  
Someone said something about MegaMan...I used to really like those games, always wanted to see something like that in first person shooter. That's why I want Metroid Prime, or for them to make a MM first person shooter game.

  
  Well, MM is property of Capcom, but seeing as Nintendo worked with Capcom on the Zelda for the GBA, it's much more likely for there to be a MM game in the future.
  
  Oh, and about Metroid Prime... I just got it! *goes to play it*
  
  
  [Editted by Lugiatrainer on Mar 9, 2003 4:02]
msanis

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Mar 8, 2003 22:10
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  Ahhhh... lets see, im taking a trip in for my... "monthly reply"
  
  Ok, my ideas on what ramblings that have ocurred...
  1.) Zelda Windwaker
  This game looks rather odd... and in fact, it is quite different from the original series. In this it is more like invade castles... and from what I heard it is VERY interesting. You fall flat on your face, and people in the game laugh their @$$es off at you, who wouldn't want to be mocked by an artificial character? Also, enemys seem more advanced, enemys have better AI, and when you strike an enemys armor you see sparks fly and hear the clash of metal. I also have a simple fact, this is NOT the first Zlda game to introduce the "cartoony" look, in fact... the first one was Links awakening. Anyway, Although it has a wierd look to it, i still think it will be worthwhile to buy it, because it is truly a VERY in-depth game, with effects not seen before in a Zelda game prior to this one. (getting Master quest also helps too )
  2.) Mario Sunshine
  This is a great game, i recommend it to anyone. I believe it has one problem though, it is too corny. In fact, i think this game would be the best if it didnt have the "cutscenes" at all. Also i heard a rumor that the frilly looking inhabitants of Isle Delfino could have actually looked human... thing is... Nintendo didn't want to make them look human because they thought it wouldn't follow the mario series. When you finally face off with the big guy (bowser) he's taking a bath in a tub of green crap... I honestly would have been happier if it were a battle scene like the one from M64. Basically good game, no... GREAT game, but it could have easily been made better.
  3.) Final Fantasy Chronicals
  THat is the name of the game folks... for those who don't know. This FF will ONLY be for Gamecube, I don't have much info on it. I've always wanted to play a 3D FF, because i only got to play the old ones. from what i do know is that it may have some "hidden" features from FF tactics (geting released on GBA)
  4.) Rerelease chrona trigger, gamecube?
  I have not heard this one, and although i would want them to... i doubt it, they may make a sequal, but they will not totally remake a game just to put it on a console. It is possible however, that it may get released on the GBA. I really hope they do... that was tied with FF3 for the best rpg i have EVER played (as of yet.)
  5.) Decline of Nintendo
  I have this to say... NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!
  Nintendo is not dieng, in fact nintendo is doing quite well from what i have seen. Nintendo DOES have many supporters. In fact, 3/4 of everyone who has a console in my school has a GC. New games are released every... month or so from what i have seen, and i do not think there is any need to worry about Nintendo. Pokemon is well... dead. I hate to say it Minty, but ther is no way AT ALL that pokemon is even making 1/100 of what it used to. And i'll tell you this, the thing that wrote the death sentence for pokemon was THAT STUPID, GAY, HORRIBLE TV show! im sorry minty, i normally never act this way, but i used to spend alot of my time, and money as a pokemon fan, 2 months later if you were saw with a card or game you were going to get mugged in the streets. And i'll tell you this, if pokemon never had a tv show, the games would still be selling, and the cardgame still thriving... I hated to se it go down so rapidly because of that tv show...
  
  Ok i think i have proven my points (especially on pokemon )
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LieutenantEagle

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  I side with Msanis on all the points.
  

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MintMan

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  Wow, you got some wrong info, Sans.
  
  I know Poke isn't making as much money as it used to; I even said that, remember? That doesn't mean it's dead. Hel, it makes prolly only a millionth what it was when it was at its prime, but that is still a profitable franchise. You're looking at the thing that saved the entire company from bankruptcy... literally.
  
  As for Link's Awakening, the Hel you mean that was the first cartoony Zelda? The graphics in that were the same sprite graphics found in To the Past and the original Legend (although cream spinach green). And when we say "cartoony", we mean that over-deformed legs-one-tenth-of-body-length trash they are tryin' to pull off for Waker, not normal cartoon standards.
  
  Yes, a Mega Man game is coming out for Cube. There are gonna be six MM games this year alone for the big 15th anniversary of the Blue Bomber. I think the GC game is gonna be a side scroller like Wild 9 (thank you gaming god!) and not a first person shooter, which would have sucked hard core. 'Tis cel-shaded too. w00t!
  
  Yes, FF! I think the full name of it is the Crystal Chronicles, but that could have been a really early source. Yes, the Crystals are back, like they were in Nine.... for about five minutes! I hope this one gets full-on Crystalized-goodness like in the original NES FF -- four elements, bay-bee!
  If they come out with an Earth Bound for GC, that would be all too sweet. FF + EB = Start of a new RPG empire on a Nintendo console. w00t!
NuoTrainer

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  On Mar 9, 2003 7:24, MintMan said:
  
Yes, FF! I think the full name of it is the Crystal Chronicles, but that could have been a really early source. Yes, the Crystals are back, like they were in Nine.... for about five minutes! I hope this one gets full-on Crystalized-goodness like in the original NES FF -- four elements, bay-bee!
  If they come out with an Earth Bound for GC, that would be all too sweet. FF + EB = Start of a new RPG empire on a Nintendo console. w00t!
  

  
  A magazine I bought for its Ruby/Sapphire guide had an article about Crystal Chronicles... It mentioned being able to use the GBA as a controller, and the screenshot showed some kind of mysterious spell-orb arranging screen...
  
  About EB - did you know the Mother 3 petition finally got its 30000 signatures? They've probably already printed it and mailed it to Nintendo. I hope they do something Earthbound soon, it's been too long without a sequel...
Camo

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  Wowza! I just scored Godzilla:destroy all monsters melee, which is very sexy, and if your a godzilla fan and dont have it, you must die, now all I need to have a stable GC collection is PSOGC, Monkeyball2 and some more pads and I got round to playing smash bros, it seems ok, not as addictive as sonic and not half as fun as Godzilla, but Bowser is fun to use to smash up Mario!
  
  Megaman cell shaded scroller nice! I only ever owned Megaman X2 on my SNES, and whenever I see the old snes in action, I always wak it on and have a go, the Dragon punch was so cool! Oh and some GC goss stuff (might not be 100% accurate, but read it soo...) A Pokemon GC game is comin out, and it will be cheap, but can only be used with ruby or saphire conected up, dunno whats it about, the FF Crystal Chronicles is about a toxic world and every city has a crystal that creats a breathable bubble of saftey, but every now and then a "somthing" makes the bubbles die out and 1 person from each city much search for more magic crystals. The gameplay is up to 4 on one GC but one character must carry a special crystal which makes a bit of saftey area which everyone must stay inside or DIE!I jus wanna know if you design your own character or use defualt ones, cause if its a custem orientated game, its a must. Also Sega will be dominating onlineyness as they made some special server which will be GC's first (FOR PSO!), but is the cheapest alternative for Sony and Xbox programmers to use, so even the smallest games can have a special online thingy!
  
  Thats about all I know!
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Cheetarius

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   Kero, I've only ever really gotten to play one MM game...For maybe three hours. I really liked it at the time, it was a veeery old game. I don't remember which game it was, exactly, but I now I got to play as Zero during the first mission. If that helps.
  
   As for the side-scrolling and first-person shooters thing...I think either one would be nice, if I could just get it. But they'd have to make it so that you could go back to areas you've previously been through, unlike some games that won't let you backtrack.
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msanis

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  Nope Minty, I am correct in saying Link to the past, The "picture" part of the game gives link the cartoony look. Im surprised someone like you would have not seen that. He had the deranged arms and legs ...and everything else.
  
  I said when did i first appear, not when it was first used as a playable character
  
  
  Yes... i remember the crystals... those were some good games... i only remember seeing them in Mystic quest and FF2 (never played FF1). Also... The crystals took a little visit to mario rpg... but they were not attainable... in fact they were one hell of an enemy.
  
  
  Minty Well... i suppose it is not fully dead, perhaps i over exaggerated. BUT pokemon like you said makes NOTHING even close to what it formely was able to. I suppose it still does get some money, but not enough... and you HAVE to admit the show was the thing that nearly killed pokemon in america. THe video games (except for the "picture safari") were pretty good, and the card game was just as good as some of the popular ones played today. Let me say this, had the show not shown in america pokemon would still be an insanely popular franchise just like it formely was.
  
  Camo, some games i'd recommend for you and your pretty new GC would be...
  1.) Metroid prime- A great shooting game, always some new type of challenge. Rank: 10!
  2.) Mario Sunshine- GREAT game, only thing i find bad is the cutscenes. Rank: 9.5
  3.) SA2- Who on earth doesn't like sonic games? Rank: 9
  4.) SSBM- Who on earth doesn't want to beat eachother savagely with Nintendo characters?(Gets repetitive in 1p after a while, always fun in 2p) Rank:9
  5.) FF:crystal chronicals (whenever it comes out this year...) Rank: ?
  6.) Mariokart- (I only know it exists, but every Mariokart has been entertaining...) Rank: ?
  Also, I have heard only good remarks on Wind waker, but i wont recommend it to you because these remarks are not mine, i will have to see for myself if this game is worth buying...
  Rank: ?
  
  Games not to get...
  
  1.) Gauntlet Dark legacy: GREAT game... for the first 5 minutes, it gets so repetitive that you can just guess how the level will end, and what you have to do to get there. not to mention the graphics could be better...
  This game is also insanely hard... bosses wipe you out easily unless you spend your time leveling up every second...
  This game would be good but just didn't quite do as well as i thought...
  Rank: 5.5
  
  Luigi's mansion- I haven't heard many good comments about this game, from what I Have heard (and seen) it is repetitive, and gets boring rather fast... storyline supposedly isn't too pretty either... Rank:6
  
  Ok im done discussing that...
  
  Rumors... I have heard rumors of a "Mario 128" (A game having similar gameplay and storyline to M64)
  I have not seen much evidence to say the rumor has an credibility however...
  
  Mariokart Is coming... it's not really a rumor i suppose... but not much information is known about it.
  
  
  
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  Mario 128 was not a game- but a Demo used at a Game Cube Convention to show how the system could work. All it is was 128 Mario’s on screen at the same tyme all doing different things and interacting with one another. Showing the AI and Graphics capabilities for the unit. The Unit that is failing! Even the President of Nintendo knows it!
  They are not making money because they have no games- and the odd franchise character game here and there will not help- they’ve already announced that the new system will have a early 2005 release. Getting the jump on X-Box II and PS3 which are scheduled for a late 2005 / early 2006 release. Nintendo claims that PS2’s early start on the Cube was the reason for it’s lagging sales. Ha! I’ve seen 5 Systems fail in my lyfe.
  Not go obsolete with the passage of tyme- I mean- make no money and fail! Go to any VGS and ask, read any unbiased publication- Nintendo Power is not gonna tell ya! You or your friends opinion on the financial status of the Cube is irrelevant to the fact. The Cube will die out in about a year / year & 1/2... It’s on it’s last legs.
  
  I LOVE the GC and I want one real bad- but only for the odd franchise character games (Mario, Star Fox, Godzilla, Mega Man etc) And that’s not how a company makes money, you know? Most people only want about 10 games in the GC library... I want about 5 tymes that in PS2 games!
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  The Gamecube is not on it's last legs. Mind you it's making quite a bit less money than the PS2, but nintendo is not doing poorly with it. There are a minority of people who will not buy the new Zelda game because of it's graphics, but most people have grown to like, or atleast except the new graphics and that game will sell well, and after the new graphics have proven themselves many of the people who were holding back will pick up the game. They also have capcom pumping out RE games for them which in itself has enough popularity to sell the system to fans of that series. The Gamecube may never do as well as the PS2 but it will also never fall. It has much more support than the N64 and even the N64 was able to survive. Plus if they ever start losing money on it (which will never happen) the GBA which has no competition at all makes enough sales to compensate for it.
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  I wouldn't mind the gamecube failing, after I get some more good games out of it. Why you ask? Simple, Nintendo's only smart with portable consoles now. Th last smart console for them was the snes. The n64 wasn't even on discs yet, while all other companies were. Just look at sega, they are doing some of their best work as a third party developer. Pretty soon, only financial giants will battle over making consoles, because consoles are only a way of geting your games out. Every game company loses money on making consoles, which they recoup with games. When you have two very rich companies like Sony and Microsoft doing it, there is little risk there will be no more consoles coming out. Think about it, Nintendo sega and sony's games all coming out on one system. It would be great because you would no longer need all these systems, just the sony. Besides, Microsoft sucks ass at making anything more than a flight simulator.
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