This place has gone too long without a post being made in it -- it is the blutty Classics forum for cryin' out loud! Well, I have not actually started a topic here for quite some time, so why not now?
Okay, we all know that there are several projects currently being worked on in the giant amorpheous blob that is Reality's End, and I am trying to find time doing each of them. Then, when trying to think of what to make a topic on, it came to me -- why don't I just ask?
There are four prime competitors and then several petty ones. The main things I could do for this site are make more Battling Dragons creature (I am currently redrawing Nidhogg, BTW), get more work on the BD RPG done, finish the fundamentals of Gold/Silver for the R.E. League, or get crackin' on finishing the storyline for Legend of the Gilded Jewel.
Then of course there are all of those things I would normally do when I don't feel like doing anything else, like forum work (including adding password protection and more forums for things that may soon come), Monsta Killa, or a new incarnation for Arena Terrae.
There of course is also the all-dreaded why-not-start-on-a-new-game suggestion, which of course I am sure I would be immediately hanged for.
What I'm thinking is that I should get Nidhogg and Hrimfaxi redrawn, make Garm and possibly some BD enemies while implementing the finishing touches for G/S/C, and then getting the BD RPG well underway for my winter break, in which the restrictions of time and space disappear.
msanis
Posts: 454
Member #7
Nov 5, 2002 14:58
No offence Minty, but i think it's a little too late to make the gilded jewel...i mean, pokemon has kinda died out.......a while ago...
just my opinion so don't go and hang me...
*watches Minty get a huge scyth to cut his head off with.*
As for Bdrpg i say go for it, I would like to see the finished product, it'd be nice if we got items in bdrpg by now by the way...and a type of shop to get the items from if possible.
i bet this post was a stupid one....well maybe...
SailorSassyStar
Posts: 419
Member #19
Nov 5, 2002 15:06
I think that I can help here. I could probably make another BD creature for you, if I had the slightest clue what to make. I'm sure that you could suggest one for me and I could do a bit of simple backround research. I think that a project like that would be good for me.
For the BD RPG, it seems like it is gonna be sooooo awesome, but only if it ever comes out. I know you can do it, so go for it!
I can't say that I particularly enjoyed AT, but that is just me. RE Leagure is good, but I'm so sick of pokémon that I want to just kill them. *runs upstair to the cube to knock the stuffings out of Mewtwo, Pichu, Pikachu, and Jigglypuff* That's better. I'd really love to see the new hrimfaxi pics. I can't imagine why. The old ones are cool, but the nidhogg pictures really need to be redone. Earlier today I saw Enthropy with a wrinkle in him. Another thing you said you might add is a link to our BD and/or RE accounts on the forum. That would be really nifty. *needs a wider vocabulary*
Anyways, I'll be happy to help out in any way that I can, even if it isn't much. Crap. I took so long to do this post that somebody else did while I was still typing this. *thwacks herself with a fuzzy slipper for typing to much*If there is something wrong, it's probably my fault. *SailorSassyStar* PurpleStarPink My new site which is under major construction VanillaFudge
LieutenantEagle
Posts: 953
Member #27
Nov 5, 2002 19:05
Ignore the RE League completely - just promote the Mushroom Gym before you do so (just kidding). If there is one thing that I am really looking forward to, then it is the BD RPG.
Hmm...did I just go off topic? *notices MintMan with his famous scythe*LieutenantEagle
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VinnyD
Posts: 443
Member #9
Nov 5, 2002 21:19
BDRPG! Now!! What are you waiting for reading this!! GOOOO!!!
MadGoblin
Posts: 1515
Member #2
Nov 6, 2002 11:08
I think it's apparent that the Badrroplga is the thing the people want. And, of course, no creatures with obvious folds in the paper they were drawn on should be being displayed at RE. You actually adding a new one would be a plus, too, so that there'd be room in the creation ratio for one of the four I plan to make this winter.
REL truly is the weakest link in all of RE. Don't start anything new above all, though. Even finish LoGJ before you get cracking on anything like that. I mean, true, it's probably not the biggest attraction at RE (heck, i haven't earned a badge in months), but it should at least be complete. ... and Venom should be the next Rex Ranarum
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MintMan
Posts: 4061
Member #1
Nov 7, 2002 24:26
I can't just ignore the R.E. League completely. Technically, with a little time I can spend on it, I'll avoid two-fold the complaints I get on it. I know I at least have to get items and happiness in it soon; everything else can wait. I think I was working out a schedule of working on it once per month and being sated with it.
Yes, Nidhogg is wrinkly. Ya happy? It wasn't always wrinkly, tho'. The problem comes from the fact that not only have the pictures been scanned three seperate times, but the last time was a year after the thing was drawn! Even harder to believe is that those rescans looked better than the original, even with the creases. Yes, it is and has been in desperate need of a redo. I figure Hrim, on the other hand, might be able to a new creature or two before it comes time to redo it. Even then, I'd most likely piece-mail it. The Dew Drop is perfectly drawn -- I really only have problems with the coloring used on the background for it.
Creature you say, Sassy? You know the rules: actually know a creature, draw a sample pic, and send it in for approval.
Well, it seems that the BD RPG is getting an amazing majority. I guess I can late-night it instead of doing other things, especially since my other servers have dried up. I guess I should really start writing down plot lines for it. Even more important, I need to get the pics of the actual characters done. The big blank squares in the RPG Beta are kinda annoying.
Ah, a shop. That'll be fun programming. I'm going to need some sort of Give function, which was really inevitable. The joy of BD is that, unlike other games, there is no currency value. Gold Pieces are just like any other item, save they don't do anything other than make a good barter. Thanky to this, I can make different regions use different sorts of currencies -- no Final Fantasy style getting rich and never worrying about money You may be rich in one part of the game, but the next it is all worthless. Bwa-hahahahaha!
SailorSassyStar
Posts: 419
Member #19
Nov 8, 2002 17:42
Wow that is a long post. I read it all except for the last paragraph. I'm so proud of myself. Anyways, I know the rules for submitting/creating a creature, but I can't think of any good ones that when drawn would be recognizable. I don't know that muchout mythological creatures that would be worth while and since you know so much about mythology I thought knew that you could at least point me in the right direction. I know that I can't draw feathery wings for crap, and that we have enough eggs. The only thing that I can think of is the pheniox. I used to know how to spell it, but I forgot. Please just give me an idea so that I can get started. That is always the toughest part for me. After I'm started everything goes fine...most of the time.If there is something wrong, it's probably my fault. *SailorSassyStar* PurpleStarPink My new site which is under major construction VanillaFudge
AHHHHH!!! You wouldn't!!! I came up with the idea for he pheonix a LONG time ago! Minty should know the forms of this, but i don't have a scanner to draw it with, i want at least partial credit for coming up with the idea......and the stages
i did come up with some attacks for it though...
Ashes
Attacks:
Embers- Low power fire attack.
rebirth- small healing spell.
Pheonix
Attacks: Flamedriver- Pheonix does a fiery body slam onto the enemy.
Recooperative flames- Healing type spell.
( Either of the next 2 attacks would be good for a third attack. )
Fiery wind- High power fire attack.
Flame Circle- Traps and damages enemy in a circle of fire.
(may have poison-like effect while enemy is trapped inside.)
I also would like some work with this creature......but i don't think anyone can really draw it properly...i bet this post was a stupid one....well maybe...
SailorSassyStar
Posts: 419
Member #19
Nov 9, 2002 11:57
Don't have a cow! geeze The pheniox is legendary, anybody could have come up with the idea of using it for BD. I don't know whether or not you thought of it first, but that doesn't really matter. It seems very apparent to me that it isn't going to happen from either of us, you because of your not having a scanner, me because of my not being able to draw birds. I've got to be able to come up with something I can do... Right now it better be homework before I get in trouble. Life is so not fair, but we all already knew that.
Edit: DUH! Why didn't I think of this before? I could make Cerberus, the 3 headed dog that guards the under world! Wow, the first thing I'm going to do is look up how to spell it. That would be a good idea. *Remembers homework* I have to choose. *lightbulb moment. I'll just do them both at the same time since I'm supposed to be using the computer for my science fair graphs since last week! I better get to work. If there is something wrong, it's probably my fault. *SailorSassyStar* PurpleStarPink My new site which is under major construction VanillaFudge
[Editted by SailorSassyStar on Nov 9, 2002 18:05]
Akira
Posts: 44
Member #24
Nov 9, 2002 12:12
Ohooo.. interesting. Mind if I step in on your discussion of the Pheonix?
Being a pretty good artist myself, I have a suggestion. How 'bout the three of us work on the Pheonix together? I can draw it(birds are quite easy for me.. and I have no problems doing wings.), and the two of you can tell me what to draw(there are so many versions of the Pheonix out there, I can't tell which is the right one! X.x)! Isn't that a grand idea! BD's first "group creature".
Aww, I miss the slutty purple arrow from AH. I suppose its precursor, the sexy orange arrow, will do for now.
Anywho, SSS, how old are you? I mean, Jesus H. Christ, Ems's post was long for someone in 6th grade maybe, but if you are anywhere near the highschool level, that's nothing. I dunno, I tend to frequent more laxed websites. Perhaps you could stick in a "This-forum-is-for-crap-only-so-don't-come-here-if-you-can't-take-it forum"? Nah, I'd actually like to see RELeague have an update or two sometime soon, 'cause that'd give my site some more of the hits from my gym that'd boost up the ole' 'faxi. Perhaps you could implement something akin to the online battler that you used to have at fracturedreality. The one that didn't really work, but looked like it should. Hell, you could have it be something similar to the current BD battling system, but just have someone attack every hour or something like that. Actually for the poke battles, maybe something more akin to every 15 mins.
Hmm... Actually... You better get out your crossbow soon. 'cause You're gonna want to shoot me. What if...
...You made *another* RE League that operated the same way as the current BD? A crossover, if you will. You start off the same way as the two RE Leagues, by picking out your starter and naming it. However, there will be no walkaround. You battle each other to get experience, and once someone hits a certain level or something (beats you, perhaps) they can start their own gym. However, this gym will be very different from the current REL gyms.
As owner of a gym, you are allowed to create one wild pokemon that gym aspirees can attempt to catch. The catch to stop this frmo becoming inundated with creatures? They can't access this creature until *after* they have beaten the gym leader. The gym leader could also create one non-live battle that can be used to aid your levelling up. You would, of course, have to implement something that would make it impossible to level up completely by gyms. Again, this would be something that could only be accessed after defeating the gym leader.
As the gym leader, you would not be allowed to deny challengers the chance to attempt to defeat you. However, to make them actually train up against other players first, you could implement some sort of a "gym leader advantage." I have not the foggiest what this would be, and it would not apply to non-gym matches against you. And, as you would be battling BD style, only one battle could be fought against the gym leader at the time. I suppose to make it not be impossible, you could also set up a few other gyms right at the start.
While taking a shower today, I also had a couple ideas for use in BD, probably revolving around making it easier to have more than one familiar, or perhaps being able to have 2-on-2 fights. Or 3-on-3. I dunno, I kinda forgot what I was thinking there.
One other thing, it will likely be a while 'till I check back, so if I'm unresponsive, gimmie an email too.-_-; (c) Ethereal Enterprises, 2002
MadGoblin
Posts: 1515
Member #2
Nov 9, 2002 13:55
Pfft, you think the inability to draw birds should stop anyone? I have four avians in my Creature Repertoire to date: Raicho, Yllerion, [Russian Firebird], and Roc. (the one's name I can't remember how to spell at the moment )
I'm just gonna do what I did for my previous creatures: draw them the way I want a lot, draw the actual animal a bunch, then find some happy, half-way, handy-dandy hump to rest 'pon. Although, it might explain why they look so bad...
MintMan
Posts: 4061
Member #1
Nov 9, 2002 15:56
Group creature, eh? Well, I do believe I promised the first-dibs on the Phoenix to MSanis (That's how it's spelled -- 'o' then 'e'. Or, if you are really lazy, you can just spell it "Fenix" like they did in the old Latin bestiaries [the Romans had no concept of "ph" for an 'f' sound -- that's a Greek idea]), but if you want to try to share a creature, 'tis fine by me so long as you follow one rule: each picture must be consistant. I don't want the think actually looking as though it were drawn by several different people. I guess you'd have to stick to each body part or something like that.
You want to make Cerebus? Fine by me. The last person whom I can even recall wanting to do that was Six Grey, and with the stunning development of the Jabberwock, it is quite obvious that he has lost any dibs he has to creatures.
Okay, Ice... Ice... Ice... yeah....
That doesn't sound like R.E. League material. That would be a stupid thing to do. The R.E. League is meant to be a fast-paced JavaScript game, which gave it the only advantage over other things like PBS and other on-line Pokemon RPGs. Slowing it to that pace would not only require tons of programming stuff I already have on a different platform, but also come out to battles so boring no one would care to partake in them. BD battles typically don't last long and don't require active participation. Pokemon battles last six times the length and would require either an extensive programmable AI for reactions or action only every time a creature is dictated. Both are infeasible, and so is your idea of fifteen minute intervals. Enough people play and that's a lot of bandwith lost, especially when you consider that people would actually sit there and refresh their screen during those fifteen minutes (Think people aren't that sad? Think again!).
What you speak of seems more fit for the rebirth of Kinak's PokeBattle which Gobbo, Ash10, and myself were supposed to recreate. I don't know what ever happened to that project. The post is still there in the forums.
Okay, this post is beginning to top the length of the last two monsters here, so before my ADD members doze off on me, I'll just say that multiple monster BD battles are currently impossible under the current system. It would require an entire rewrite of the code and a Hel of a lot more, including some different sort of challenge system.
Of course, that is only for the Web Battles. The E-Melee I was tinkering with at the end of summer (which was coming along quite well, I might add) was started with the very idea that multiple-man battles could take place, but not just two-on-two. You could have as many as you humanly wanted, and in any variety of team arrangements at that. 'Course, E-Melee was something I worked on very shortly and realized would be very incompatible for several BD as they never seem to check their mail (based on challenge reaction time). So I'm working more on the RPG instead
Ice
Posts: 411
Member #46
Nov 9, 2002 20:55
Hey, I never said that my idea was feasible, or would interest anyone other than myself. And yeah, I knew it would take a hell of a lot of programming-from-scratch work. That's why I suggested it to *you* instead of doing it myself.
But hey, you at least liked the idea, didn't you? Say, if somebody else did it and you just got to participate? You'd sign up for it.
Anywho, I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't trying to get you to murder me, I just wanted to throw that into the mix.-_-; (c) Ethereal Enterprises, 2002
msanis
Posts: 454
Member #7
Nov 11, 2002 22:51
Well a group effort is all nice and stuff...but...there's not much else i CAN do because basically i have nothing to draw with, all i really have to offer at this point are the attacks i made up (which seem pretty decent)
I'd like to help though so send some ideas =Pi bet this post was a stupid one....well maybe...
I can't imagine why. The old ones are cool, but the nidhogg pictures really need to be redone. Earlier today I saw Enthropy with a wrinkle in him. 
Another thing you said you might add is a link to our BD and/or RE accounts on the forum. That would be really nifty. 
*needs a wider vocabulary*
You may be rich in one part of the game, but the next it is all worthless. Bwa-hahahahaha!
I used to know how to spell it, but I forgot. Please just give me an idea so that I can get started. That is always the toughest part for me. After I'm started everything goes fine...most of the time.
The pheniox is legendary, anybody could have come up with the idea of using it for BD. I don't know whether or not you thought of it first, but that doesn't really matter. It seems very apparent to me that it isn't going to happen from either of us, you because of your not having a scanner, me because of my not being able to draw birds. I've got to be able to come up with something I can do... 
Life is so not fair, but we all already knew that.
I have to choose. 
*lightbulb moment. I'll just do them both at the same time since I'm supposed to be using the computer for my science fair graphs since last week!