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| Name | Falak
| | Classification | Serpent
| | Origin | Islamic
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In Myth:
 Falak was the enormous serpent that bore the weight of all creation and the fires of hell in its mouth.
According to the traditional cosmology, the seven heavens, six hells, and earth were held by an angel. That angel stood upon a ruby mountain atop of Kjata, the thousand-eyed bull. It rode on top of Bahamut, a fish of such magnitude that according to Arabian Nights, only Jesus could have taken in with one sight. The fish swam a galactic ocean resting on a sea of darkness. Below this, larger than all else, was the fiery serpent Falak, who lived in a void of fire. Beyond it, men's knowledge does not reach. It could easily destroy all creation if it were not for its fear of God.
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- Anonymous, Nov 11, 2009 02:09
Size
Is this the largest creature?
Is this monster larger than universe? Reply
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- MintMan, Nov 11, 2009 08:51
Re: Size
As far as all my research goes, yes, this is the largest.
Falak is larger than some of the other accepted largests, such as Kjata and Bahamut, so being bigger than the biggest is a pretty good way to set oneself up there. Most things limit themselves to worldly sizes, but Falak surpasses two other increasingly enormous beasts, not to mention all sorts of giant mountains and angels, so I don't think anything else could touch him. At the most, other creatures may match the mountains or angels, which are galacticly sized in their own right. Reply
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- Cthulu, Nov 12, 2009 04:07
Re: Re: Size
Bigger Bahamut or Falak? Reply
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- Anonymous, Nov 12, 2009 23:39
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Didn't he errr... just cover this? Falak is, by orders of magnitude, larger than Bahamut.
Literacy! Reply
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- Cthulu, Nov 14, 2009 04:06
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Thanks Reply
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- Cthulu, Nov 20, 2009 21:22
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The last question: Bigger Falak or Universe??
Please answer Reply
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- Rook, Dec 3, 2009 03:21
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Falak IS the universe, as far a mankind's knowledge reaches. All of creation rests on it. If you're trying to compare the SCIENTIFIC universe to a MYTHOLOGICAL one, I wish you luck. Reply
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- Cthulu, Dec 5, 2009 01:27
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Largest mythological creature ever, right? Reply
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- Rook, Dec 8, 2009 03:12
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Basically, yeah. Reply
- Anonymous, Dec 20, 2009 07:14
Is there any monster/creature have an Infinity length?? Reply
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- MintMan, Dec 20, 2009 10:58
Infinite Length
There is a Japanese monster, the Nurikabe, which appears as an infinite wall to bother travelers.
The Oroborus is a serpent devouring its own tail, which represents an infinite cycle.
When it comes down to it, tho', nothing can really be infinite -- even in the fantastical world of folklore and mythology. To have no end would require being as large as or larger than the universe itself, and if Falak couldn't do it, nothing can.
Unless one of those pipe mythologies has one, but that wouldn't make a lick of sense, of course. Reply
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- Anonymous, Dec 21, 2009 00:39
Re: Infinite Length
what about chaos in greek mythology? she is infinity right? or not? Reply
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- LeeTupper, Dec 21, 2009 09:47
Re: Re: Infinite Length
Is somebody compensating for something?
(Actually, was the Nurikabe infinite? What I read had it as an invisible wall that would just shuffle back and forth so that it could always block a traveller's path. But I don't know if that was influenced by modern depictions of Yokai or what.) Reply
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- MintMan, Dec 21, 2009 10:20
Compensating Infinity
I said Nurikabe appears to be an infinite wall -- not actually was one. As I stated, nothing is infinite.
Chaos and those like it are just primordial blobs of precreation; they are not so much infinite as they are all there is at the time. In fact, I've never even seen official Greek sources call Chaos any sort of infinite, so now -- once again -- you are just pulling stuff promptly from yer bum.
My recommendation: stay away from neo-pagan Kjata-droppings. Chaos, after playing the part of progenitor, did little else in Greek mythos and received very little description on account of it.
While a great void could be infinite, it would be an infinity of nothing, which hardly counts; you can always hav emore nothing. Reply
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- Cthulu, Dec 22, 2009 05:00
Re: Compensating Infinity
Chaos was the Great Void. It was nothing but it is still a primordial blobs of precreation. Lots of people call t god right?
So bigger Falak or the Chaos? Reply
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- MintMan, Dec 22, 2009 09:42
Chaos -- The Last Straw
Okay, dude, this is just getting sad. I just explained full-well that I knew what Chaos was. Why did you feel like you had to flex your puny li'l mythology muscle here of all places?
Chaos was not infinitely sized; it was never even described as large other than the "great" descriptor attributed to it. Chaos got one of those Monad list of features where it had no real constant, describable state. And -- once again, you illiterate -- Chaos was a great void, and a large nothingness is hardly anything to consider large at all.
Moreover, how do you compare Falak -- from the Middle East -- to an entirely different pseudo-cosmology of the Greeks? Simple: you can't.
So, unless you actually find something that says Chaos was a largest of something, he ain't bigger. In fact, unless you find anything stating some creature or god as the largest of something, there is absolutely no use comparing it to Falak. Even then, Falak isn't the largest; it is just the largest known to mankind, as clearly stated in the bestiary description.
There are other mythological cosmologies out there that stack the world on top of animals; try going with them instead of Chaos of all things.
Or maybe I should just save time typing this by screaming at a wall instead. Seems to have as much effect. Reply
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- Cthulu, Dec 23, 2009 07:36
Re: Chaos -- The Last Straw
Okay i understand. AND you mad at me right? Truly im indonesian and im like something big. SO... If you mad, DONT ANSWER MY QUESTION OKAY!? Reply
- Rook, Dec 23, 2009 01:52
Re: Re: Compensating Infinity
Cripes kid, you're obsessed. And either post anonymously or don't. It kinda defeats the purpose of hiding your identity if you're just gonna say "HAY IT'S ME AGAIN!!!" three posts later. Not that we couldn't have guessed it was you...
Look, Falak's big. Really big. Incomprehensibly big. But there ain't much more we can tell you about it. It's MYTH. So quit comparing sizes. -_-' Reply
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- Anonymous, Dec 23, 2009 07:37
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Nice jokes B.... Reply
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- LeeTupper, Mar 23, 2010 18:44
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The ironic thing is that now I've done some reading up on mythology, and there is some immense serpent thingy in Indian (or Hindu?) mythology that is kinda akin to Falak, a giant universe serpent, and its name translates to "infinity" or "endless" or something like that.
I'll put up the text from my source when I've got the book in hand again, but if it's accurate to the myth, I think I'm gonna feel kinda stupid. Reply
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